(I’m a lefty who would be fine with peaceful separation.)

I keep coming back to your comment, as there are so many angles from which to respond… Those hippies felt much like I do and for many of the same reasons. However, as I stated in a different comment, most ended up ‘growing up’ and choked their more principled ex-comrades. That generation built the contemporary society, listening to Bob Dylan whilst engineering depleted-uranium bullets.

They developed nicer things too, such as the personal computers we all use. But as a whole, I am convinced they left the Earth a much darker, more terrifying and miserable place. A world of individualism, careerism, narcissistic moralism and ever-growing state tyranny.

Moreover, I don’t really want to live off the land. I could, in a pinch and on the lam. Actually though, it is easier to live off of this society’s fat, as the urban anarchists have learned. Why grow food or take up hunting when so much fresh and already processed food is tossed away each day? I have been the young guy behind the fast-food counter, having to do that. Every opportunity I had, I would carry off or try to give away the food at closing… I don’t have any shame in violating the company rules. It did not hurt them, and fed people.

*(or the very similar state ID card, used by those who don’t drive)

@Sandmaker: You are right about the Federal Government (and locally, the state and local regimes). There are ways to live against them… but the real idea should be to not live under them at all.

@Earl: I am intrigued by your offer…. The issue is though that I am just so deeply tied to the Long Island/Northern Jersey area that it is hard to break away from right now, for a number of reasons. I had dreams of moving to North Dakota and would have been helped by a major investor in that area (where the oil industry is blooming and booming), but my father told him to withdraw the offer.

I do not want to replicate their experiences for a few reasons.

Number One: They failed, and their failed membership comprises the modern opposition. Every family-gathering (of my father’s side) reenforces this.

Number Two: Although those free-spirited and minded hippies sought (and in some limited extent, occasionally found) freedom from the present, consumerist *zeitgeist*, they did not carry this all of the way. I am not happy enough to be my own free man. I already am. I want to be with others in my own free and liberated country.

Number Three (this one being linked closely to Two): I am a man of writing and talking. I make a poor woodsman, a poor fisherman, poor hunter, poor workman, and probably would make a poor farmer also. If I must be a failure, it might as well be doing something I am comfortable with.

I think the Red Country will be hopelessly out of luck in finding much support from foreign governments. Perhaps Russia and China would give some moderate support, and probably trade could be established with some of the South American countries and Eastern Europeans… but overall I would presume ‘pariah-status’ to be in-store for the Red Country. Indeed, I expect it to be a gross net-exporter of revolution to Europe, along with dissidents in the Blue Country. Many fishing vessels left New England ports in the ’70s and ’80s carrying guns to the IRA. I would not be surprised to see that sort of thing happen again, on a much wider scale.

A Great Lakes port is insufficient… Only a port directly accessing the ocean can do. We must not be held at the mercy of another nation, whether the Blues or Canada.

Would you support the secession or not? Wouldn’t you be glad to be rid of ‘hickistan’ and all its woe and unhipness? Think what frictionless redistribution you could achieve without the SoCon Repubs in Congress slowing everything up. Doesnt that excite you?